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FeedbackOut of the shell
‘I have been told its all about faith’
As Christians we fully believe in science. In fact, most fields of science were developed by Christians. Please see Creationist Scientists of the Past.
See most people don't realize that we have the same science and the same facts and the same evidences but it is the interpretations of those evidences that are different. Please take some time to read the following two articles—they are very important:
First, you misunderstand biblical faith, which is NOT believing in the absence of evidence, but belief and trust in Christ grounded in the reality of His fulfilled promises. But in another sense, all belief systems start with axioms, or propositions held to be true without proof, and from which other propositions are deduced. These axioms form a framework by which facts are interpreted. As we often emphasise, creationists and evolutionists have the same facts; the difference is how they are interpreted, and the difference is due to the different axioms. [See also Evolution & creation, science & religion, facts & bias and Presuppositionalism vs evidentialism] In fact, evolutionary views require tremendous faith, in the way you mean. They first believe their theory and then apply those beliefs to their studies. Many evolutionists are open about this:
If the Bible story had been different, then God would have said so. See, you are making the assumption that God isn’t powerful enough even to say what He means and mean what He says. This is a fallacy. If God would have said He used evolution or billions of years, we would defend that, but He didn’t. He said He created Adam and Eve and then said Jesus is a direct descendant of Adam (Luke 3).
God said that without faith it impossible to please Him. As I mentioned before, evolutionists have great faith, but in the wrong foundation. [Here is] a letter that I sent to an evolutionist that compares the Biblical foundation to the evolutionary foundation. From it, you’ll be able to see, as he did, that what he believed actually required much more faith than believing in the Bible.
True ... and I believe in Adam and Eve. I find it much easier to believe that all the humans in the world came from two humans than from a primordial soup as evolution teaches.
Actually this is a straw man, and I can think of no Christian apologist who would say the first part. God is eternal and not created according to the Bible. In fact, He created time. Here is a good article to explain it better, and to explain why a self-caused being of your imagination is a logical impossibility:
Well, yes, but you can’t blame us for a misconception of your own making.
I don’t think you are stupid—I encourage people to think through things. But I insist they be thorough. However, by making an assertion like this, it is implying that you think we are stupid. As I mentioned before, we all have the same evidence. It is through which glasses you look at the evidence as to how you perceive it. Here is an illustration that should help: 
Did you know that there are more religions today that there ever has been. There are religions that do not believe in God such as Buddhism, Confucianism, and Secular Humanism. Secular Humanism is the one that engulfs evolution and actually controls your country right now. See how Michael Ruse now admits that Evolution is a religion. Also, one study—by skeptics—showed that a major Antidote to superstition is biblical Christianity.
Actually it just shifted from one religious control to another. Christianity stated that there is such a thing as right and wrong and evolutionist claim the opposite. Nazis were pro-evolution as was communist Russia under Stalin. Notice what they did in the past century—the most controlling and genocidal governments which have ever existed (see Communism and Nazism Q&A). Evolutionists fully admit that there is no such thing as absolute right or wrong under their own philosophical system and they should do what ever they want to:
True, but one religion is dominating the UK right now—Secular Humanism. What are its fruits? Can you leave your doors unlocked? Please see:
Actually most are probably already answered. Please see our Q&A page on God.
This has been known to be faulty ever since Gödel’s famous ‘incompleteness’ proof. He showed that any axiomatic system at least as complex as arithmetic would always have true statements that could not be proven under that system.
Those are two bald assertions. First, you assume that there is falsehood, although you have not demonstrated even one. Then you resort to cheap psychologization of the motives of the authors. Certainly the New Testament writers were in no position to control the masses, but were almost all martyred! I’ve studied the Bible for nearly 20 years, I’ve studied mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, materials science, became one of the youngest faculty instructors at a secular university (SIUC) by the time I was 24. Yet, I have never found a single valid contradiction in the Bible nor the Bible with science. Every alleged problem has been resolved to my knowledge. Please see the articles under Bible ‘contradictions’ and ‘errors’. I have made my decision after years of study. I suggest you also get into the details. It has been fascinating to learn.
This is pretty bold statement. What proof do you have that Americans aren’t very bright? I want to check your references. In any case, the only ‘brainwashing’ going on is in the government schools—into evolutionary humanism! The evolutionary establishment doesn’t want students to learn about the problems, and a leading supporter of such evolutionary indoctrination inadvertently reveals why:
No offense taken. God bless.
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